Re: [xep-support] Page contents do not protrode onto bleed

As such bleeding the same colour as the background would not be such a good
idea. The page needs to go inside the bleed.

I found a way to 'cheat'. Apparently the page starts and ends right in the
middle of the crop mark. So if you do a crop mark that's 4mm wide, then the
required effect is achieved. However, the result is confusing to printers
because with such a wide cropmark, they wouldn't know where they need to
cut, even though it may be obvious to us.

I basically need to achieve the result of the below but with 1px cropmarks
starting right at the inside edge of the cropmarks that these will produce:

  <xsl:processing-instruction
name="xep-pdf-crop-mark-width">4mm</xsl:processing-instruction>
  <xsl:processing-instruction
name="xep-pdf-crop-offset">14mm</xsl:processing-instruction>
  <xsl:processing-instruction
name="xep-pdf-bleed">0mm</xsl:processing-instruction>
  <xsl:processing-instruction
name="xep-pdf-bleed-mark-width">0mm</xsl:processing-instruction>
  <xsl:processing-instruction name="xep-pdf-printer-mark">url('C:\Program
Files\RenderX\XEP\images\colorbar.svg')</xsl:processing-instruction>
  <xsl:processing-instruction name="xep-pdf-printer-mark">url('C:\Program
Files\RenderX\XEP\images\registration.svg')</xsl:processing-instruction>
  <xsl:processing-instruction
name="xep-pdf-linearize">false</xsl:processing-instruction>

This would give a 2mm bleed around and would put a smile on the printers'
faces :)
2008/11/20 Robert Goldsmith <robert.goldsmith@spgroup.co.uk>

> Hi :)
>
> I can understand the exact problem I think Mark has here and it's something
> I am interested in knowing the answer for as I suspect it will be very
> useful to me in the near future as well.
>
> When printing and trimming it is usual to stretch the artwork past the edge
> of the final canvas size so that when you trim you can guarantee not to see
> the white substrate at the edge (given the tolerances on many guillotines
> leave much to be desired). For this to work, XEP must have the ability to
> overflow the edge of the final artwork with a bleed of the same colour as
> the background or, more usefully, allow the placement of anything you want
> outside the crop box of the pdf (so you can place images, vector graphics
> etc. over the crop edge). Generally we need about a 2 or 3mm bleed on each
> edge.
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 20 Nov 2008, at 15:54, Alexei Gagarinov wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I have set the page background to red and all that xep-pdf-bleed is
>>> doing is set a white border between the page and the crop marks. If
>>> the page protrudes onto the bleed (i.e. the bleed is filled in with
>>> the actual page) it would solve my problems.
>>>
>>
>> The 'bleed' processing instruction defines an extra bleed area. This extra
>> area is needed to accommodate the physical limitations of cutting,
>> folding, and trimming equipment.
>>
>> I can admit that the background of this extra bleed should be the same as
>> the content background.
>> But now the background of the extra-bleed region is always white in XEP.
>>
>> BTW, what a problem are trying to solve?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alexey Gagarinov
>> RenderX.
>>
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