RE: [xep-support] Two up continuous

Robert:

> I would certainly add my vote to the svg enhancements with textPath
being highest on the list and filter effects (esp. for drop-shadows)
high up there as well.

Noted.

> I'd also add my vote to any more integrated
means of producing PDF forms.

How about a complete way? RenderX 4.16 which will be released in a few weeks time will include support for PDF Acroforms. It was the major feature coming in this release. It will be a new licensed item ($) above standard XEP.

Form elements include textboxes (text, password and multiline), checkboxes, select lists, comboboxes, hidden fields, radios and other form elements like submit buttons and reset. A PDF Form element will be allowed within any fo:inline (of a fixed size of course) or fo:block-container and is done through rx:pdf-form-field elements, attributes and child elements like:

<fo:block space-after="10pt" font-size="10pt">Form fields can even exist in-line with
          <fo:inline font-size="12pt">
          <rx:pdf-form-field name="inline1" font-size="10pt">
            <rx:pdf-form-field-text text="flowing content"/>
          </rx:pdf-form-field>
          <fo:leader leader-length="1in"/>
        </fo:inline>. This includes all kinds of widgets like <fo:inline>
          <rx:pdf-form-field name="inline2" font-size="9pt">
            <rx:pdf-form-field-combobox background-color="#9999ff">
              <rx:pdf-form-field-option text="text boxes"/>
              <rx:pdf-form-field-option text="passwords"/>
              <rx:pdf-form-field-option text="option lists" is-default="true"/>
              <rx:pdf-form-field-option text="checkboxes"/>
              <rx:pdf-form-field-option text="radios"/>
            </rx:pdf-form-field-combobox>
          </rx:pdf-form-field>
          <fo:leader leader-length=".8in"/>
        </fo:inline> and <fo:inline>
          <rx:pdf-form-field name="inline3">
            <rx:pdf-form-field-checkbox background-color="#9999ff" font-family="ZapfDingbats">
              <rx:pdf-form-field-option text="✓" is-default="true"/>
              <rx:pdf-form-field-option text="!"/>
            </rx:pdf-form-field-checkbox>
          </rx:pdf-form-field>
          <fo:leader leader-length="10pt"/>
        </fo:inline> Checkboxes. </fo:block>

I would be more than happy to send everyone a sample form who asks, just send me an email and I'll generate a custom form just for you that you can examine.

> I'd like to see background
scale-to-fit (esp. for svg files and other vector formats) on elements

This should have been supported already. It was flagged as an issue and fixed already for the next release.

> font-size to allow scale-to-
fit within bounds (e.g. rx:font-size-min, rx:font-size-max and font-
size="scale-to-fit" or font-size="auto")

I will have to think that one through. I can see how things would work in absolute sized blocks but would take some serious thinking.

*One crucial note to make in our (my) decision process is impact on performance. We have to keep in mind that we serve two audiences -- ones that care about extreme performance and ability to format 100,000s documents in short periods of time (phone bills, 401K statements, etc.) and other that do high-quality books, manuals, newsletters, etc. We have to balance the best we can do without impacting performance.

>flowing between blocks in an 'indesign' manner so that
content that overflows one block can continue to flow into a specified
further block.

This is in XSL FO 1.1 and one of the few features we have not implemented in XEP. While it remains on the list, it will not be in the 4x chain. Our unreleased formatting engine DiType supports such things. Any licensed user of XEP is welcome to use DiType as is in an unsupported state.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xep-support@renderx.com [mailto:owner-xep-support@renderx.com] On Behalf Of Robert Goldsmith
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:33 AM
To: xep-support@renderx.com
Subject: Re: [xep-support] Two up continuous

Hi All,

I would certainly add my vote to the svg enhancements with textPath
being highest on the list and filter effects (esp. for drop-shadows)
high up there as well. I'd also add my vote to any more integrated
means of producing pdf forms. Additionally, I'd like to see background
scale-to-fit (esp. for svg files and other vector formats) on elements
and I'd like to request an extension to font-size to allow scale-to-
fit within bounds (e.g. rx:font-size-min, rx:font-size-max and font-
size="scale-to-fit" or font-size="auto"). Lastly, I'd like to add a
request for flowing between blocks in an 'indesign' manner so that
content that overflows one block can continue to flow into a specified
further block.

Robert

On 24 Jun 2009, at 15:47, Kevin Brown wrote:

> Daniel:
>
> Yes we have had a few requests for two-up continuous. It is on our
> product marketing requirements list for a future release. XEP 4.16
> will be released shortly and after that we will begin the process of
> deciding which functionality makes it into 4.17.
>
> I would welcome an open discussion on this forum if you like ...
> kind of a virtual product management meeting. We weigh the time to
> develop along with the demand and marketplace
>
> Other items that have been offered in no particular order include:
>
> PDF Annotations
> Extended "graphic" support in PDF to include multimedia types (of
> course only valid for PDF Formats):
> Flash
> MPEG
> Other video
> SVG enhancements
> svg:feOffset
> svg:feBlend
> svg:TextPath
> Table markers
> XPS Output
> XPS Input as a image (actually this is already done at customers as
> they do XPS->XEPOUT and that is supported as an image)
> PPML Output
> XForms Output
> Native support for charts or incorporation of a Chart Server component
> Support for Indic languages
>
> Of course, this is not a list of all things in 4.17, this is a list
> of candidate functionality. Certainly major features like table
> markers or a new backend one would find one, maybe two in a release
> that takes place every 4 to 5 months.
>
> The disscussion is open to all. Please chime in with your own
> desired features, All these requirements are managed on an internal
> Wiki and I am the gatekeeper.
>
> Kevin Brown
> Executive Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> RenderX, Inc.
> (650) 327-1000 Direct
> (650) 328-8008 Fax
> (925) 395-1772 Mobile
> skype:kbrown01
> kevin@renderx.com
> sales@renderx.com
> http://www.renderx.com
>
>
>
> From: owner-xep-support@renderx.com [mailto:owner-xep-support@renderx.com
> ] On Behalf Of daniel.r.boughton@rrd.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:41 AM
> To: xep-support@renderx.com
> Subject: [xep-support] Two up continuous
>
>
> Has anyone else ever had the need to create PDF documents that
> display "Two up continuous" by default? Unless I am missing
> something XEP only supports the options auto, single, and
> continuous. I know iText has an option for two up continuous, but I
> really hate to have to add another step in my process to rewrite the
> PDF with iText. It would be really nice it XEP would add "Two up"
> and "Two up continuous" to the list of values that can be used in
> the <?xep-pdf-page-layout value?> processing instruction.

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Robert Goldsmith
Senior Systems Integrator, Business Systems, SP Group
Telephone: 01527 508239
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